People Are Finding Out What Donald Trump Discusses During His 1 A.M. Phone Calls

    Yeah, that's entirely too late for a phone call.

    Matt Stopera
    by Matt Stopera

    BuzzFeed Staff

    Howard Lutnick is Donald Trump's Secretary of Commerce.

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    According to a new profile in the New Yorker, they talk on the phone every night around 1 a.m.

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    What do they talk about, you ask? Well, Howard revealed the riveting stuff.

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    Sometimes it's about "real stuff," as he calls it, including "Canadian steel tariffs."

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    Other times it's about fun, gossipy things, which he calls "nothing." This includes: "Sporting events, people, who'd you have dinner with, what was this guy like, can you believe what this guy did, what's the TV like, I saw this on TV, what'd you think of what this guy said on TV, what did you think about my press conference, how about this Truth?"

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    So, there you have it. Trump and the Secretary of Commerce gossip about who they would like to have dinner with.

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    Now, I wonder if it's the eighth-grade icebreaker classic: "If you could have dinner with anyone dead or alive who would it be?"

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    My answer is always Chyna. RIP.